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Wednesday, October 05, 2005
Why your stock broker will always be richer than you.
I'm reading Bull! by Maggie Mahar
It follows the boom and bust cycle of the stock market between 1982 and 2004. Here's an interesting tidbit I thought I'd share with you.

Most stock brokers and mutual fund managers don't get paid to take risks. They get paid to beat the index average. Which means that rather than risk their jobs over a stock that may or may not do well, they'd rather buy you the stocks that are in the index or have just been added to the index. This way the performance of your portfolio will mirror the index less of course any management fees or trading costs. Of course, when a stock is added to an. index, in their rush to add it to their funds, the managers create a huge demand for the stock bidding its price up, usually beyond its economic value. Do they care? Yes, they care about their jobs. Very few of them have the nerve to stay in cash, and sometimes they're not allowed to keep cash on the sidelines. So its not like they have a choice. even if they feel the market is overvalued and due for a correction, they're sometimes compelled to stay fully vested.

Also, over a 20 year period, most investors only make 6% return average per year. increase that to 40 years and you're still under 9%. Far cry from the conventional wisdom that says you make 11.5% per year in the long run.

However, if you're 1 in a billion like warren buffet, you could probably make 23.5% per year. But the average investor isn't like Warren Buffet, who's basically a market timer. He buys when prices are dirt cheap and the stock is out of favor and sells when everyone else is rushing to buy.

Be careful of whom you trust with your money!!

That being said I do have a commodity trading account that is broker managed. I don't understand enough about commodity trading to feel secure about trading on my own. Commodity trading is about exploiting the inefficiencies in the pricing of the spreads on futures options which requires a lot of understanding and experience. So far my broker has made about 30% for me this year. Lets see how long he keeps it up. If you're willing to experiment with some money you can afford to lose, shot me an email and I'll hook you up with him.

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posted by Adventures In Money Making @ 11:35 PM

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4 Comments:
  • At 10/06/2005 8:08 AM, Anonymous The Dividend Guy saidâ?¦

    I just put this book on hold at the library.

    Careful what you say about Warren Buffet being a market timer - his fans can be real passionate and may resent that comment ;) I too would argue that he is more that a market timer - he buys companies based on fundamentals and undervalued prices.

     
  • At 10/06/2005 4:23 PM, Blogger Empty Spaces Inc. saidâ?¦

    market timing has gotten a bad rap lately. people mistake it momentum trading!!!

    I'm a market timer too. I bought properyt in San Diego when it was undervalued and sold it when it was grossly overvalued. Buffet just sold his vacation home in Laguna Hills
    that he's had for decades. He didn't have to but he said it was way overvalued!!!

     
  • At 5/27/2006 8:41 PM, Blogger Doug Pedersen saidâ?¦

    Check out The Hedge Fund Edge (book), where there is a serious discussion of the 11% stock return rule. Turns out, this is an average return, not a compounded return. What's the difference - investors get compounded returns, which are lower, because the impact of a loss has a much bigger impact in compounding than it does in averaging. My blog has an extensive treatment of the topic in my very first post.

     
  • At 11/19/2006 9:28 PM, Blogger Thomas Rockwood saidâ?¦

    Stock trading is not as easy as it seems to be. You might probably remember that in your childhood, you had pictured stock traders as just formal people who read newspapers, go to the stock market, and there it goes, money as generated.

    The task of investing and generating revenue and money from the stock market may seem very easy and relaxing from an outsider’s point of view.

    But thorough and a close look at the actual and entirety of the transactions would reveal that stock trading has never been and will never be that simple.

    Online Stock Trading

     
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